Oh, Google, if only you weren't a front for the NSA.

>if only you weren't a front for the NSA

OH NO, THE NSA KNOWS I PIRATE LUCKY STAR

>>9025
No, but the Japanese NSA does.

>>9027
>implying Japan will do anything about it

We are so open, we will close off the rest of the internet for anyone who uses our mobile OS.

>What Schmidt left unsaid: Google holds secret much key information about its search algorithms, its ad pricing and placement, or other fundamentals of its incredibly lucrative search-advertising franchise. In other words, Google only embraces openness when it does not pose a risk to its revenue-generating activities.

Totally open guize.

>>9034
If they let those out then what would they have to make money and give you free stuff? Nothing. That's just dumb business strategy.

>>9034
>In other words, INSERT_EVERY_FUCKING_COMPANY_HERE only embraces openness when it does not pose a risk to its revenue-generating activities.

>>9037
Except apple who doesn't embrace openness even when there's no risk.

Google ruling earth: Dystopian
Apple ruling earth: Neo-Fascism

There seems to be a drought of Telling recently. Is mysterious admin on holiday, or has he been assassinated by stylish macfag ninjas?

>>9046
I was just about to question that. Too many butthurt macfags piling up for them to sit on their asses any longer, my guess

>>9046
Apple may have gotten to him. He will always be remembered.

Hope the admin returns sometime today... Tomorrow Apple will introduce Faggy Lion, won't they?

>>9049
http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1010qwoeiuryfg/event/index.html

>Streaming video requires Safari 4 or 5 on Mac OS X Snow Leopard or Safari on iOS 3 or later.

Oh wow. Stay classy, apple.

>>9050
Yep, just like the last time they streamed a live presentation.

Never change, Apple, never change.

is this place dead?

I guess the lack of coverage of today's event means...

We got told.

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

UPDATE THE SITE, PLZ m(_ _)m ☆　

There's an insane amount of told going on.

This is still around though, someone's got to be taking care of it. Didn't they say they were working on new shit for this? It's been a month, don't turn into Notch. This is one of the few tech sites worth reading nowadays.

Yeah, assassination confirmed it would seem. We should make a tribute site ;_;

HE WAS AN HERO
TO TAKE THAT SHOT

RIP Admin

You told Jobs and pissed off Apple constantly. You will be remembered forever.

http://gizmodo.com/5669827/apples-lion-is-extreme-right-political-party-sym... 

lolling in progress

That the admin hasn't said anything

...


Means we got told.


YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh

wut happened to admin?! D:

>>9060
apple probably made him an offer 'he couldn't refuse'

Admin probably tried to go to Apple store but was led to an alleyway and then thrown into the backseat of an Aluminium unibody VW beetle and never seen again

Admin, may the Told be with you.

The silence of the admin...

...

... is the sound of Told.

YEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

good bye admin
let the told be with you

RIP Admin. Your tellings will always stay in our heart.

So long, Admin.

The internet will be all the more told with your loss.

I'll just leave this here : http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/10/iphone-snoop/

Is there any word yet on funeral arrangements, where to send flowers etc ...?

maybe apple didn't kill him and he had a heart attack or something. not likely but possible.

steve jobs i'm coming for you...

It's been over a month now. Can anyone find out who the admin is and try to get in contact with him? I've tried a few times and no lead as of yet

>>9072
only thing i can find: suregottold.com [AT] domainsbyproxy.com

sadness

The silence of Told is deafening.

i wish admin was here to stop the "U mad" madness (no pun intended) on mT

i want an ipad

Posting this from my iPhone 4 just to rub it in.

>>9077
Admin probalby wouldn't do shit. Did you see how long the Microsoft entry on mT got fucked by the scriptfgt?

Admin, you left and...I got a iPhone.
Im so lost without you...

>>9081

Thats so true! Since this page stopped updating both my parents got an iPod.

Could it be that this page was the last line of defense against the wold becoming overrun by macfagism?

>>9082
... that's too terrible to even contemplate.

If it happens we should set up a Jonestown / Heaven's Gate style compound and collectively An Hero rather than live in such a world.

>>9083
so you want to drink orange juice and commit suicide in the event of macfans ruling the world?

I'm glad there is at least activity in the comments.
Apple (probably) can't silence all of us!

>>9084
Well, I was also thinking that if I got in on it early I could be cult leader and have the pick of the women. But then I realised we're probably all from /g/ so there aren't any.

Well, we could stay here commenting Apple's misdeeds and the macfags failures.

It's up to us to keep the told flowing.

should we.. should we recreate the site?
temporarily until glorious admin returns to us with told from the promised land?

>>9088
Yeah, we could just throw something up for free on wikidot? Although mod(s) would still be needed to lock pages lest they become a constant warzone.

Wikidot hm?

Sounds viable.

this domain doesn't have long to live... expiration date 03/31/2011

ADMIN GET YOURSELF BACK IN HERE AND START RUNNING THE SITE

>>9089
ideally we would have it as good as admin has made it so far, the style and design really exemplify the TOLD. I would gladly fund the purchasing of a domain, as I am not so great at actual web development. Suggestions for a better place to discuss these possibilities in a more concrete fashion?

I don't think there's any other place. Maybe by e-mail, but posting your personal address here isn't very advisable.

Why isn't this site updating?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YbmK3Zu0Os&feature=sub

Makes fun of the MacBooks air -the magicalest and revolutionest laptop out there- not having optical media, and also takes a jab on the macfags that brand everything they do as "made on a Mac" by stating that the ad was made on a PC.

>>9093
well, we could set up a temporary forum

>>9094
that's just great in the good way

>>9095
I'll look into a temporary forum and/or IRC then, though I'm still hoping admin will return to us. He did a great job.

this place sure got cold

>>9096
i'll gladly host an irc room for you guys or you can stick with rizon. your call and i just want to do whatever to support the site, aside from donating (being broke isn't fun)

I can also help host an IRC. I already have an IRC server setup, but not a whole lot of use for it. If SGT gets a fuckton of users, then it might be helpful to have more than one IRC server connected for different locations or whatever.

I set up a forum for us: http://suregottold.forumer.com
Admin if by some miracle you are still alive come visit.

If we keep up posting here we'll have more replies than the "About This Site" link.

Is there an IRC channel up yet? I could lend you a hand with my PHP skills and use one of my VPS's to host the damn thing.

>>9103
devnull.doesntexist.com 6667 (6697 ssl obviously)
#TOLD

welcome.

oh and i went ahead and made a replacement site for here
http://devnull.doesntexist.com/appletold

>>9105
Nice work. I have a minor Told to submit once I can find a camera that isn't shit ...

The sudden silence of the admin

---

Is the roaring sound of Told

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

We will hopefully be recruiting writer(s) soon, site construction is well under way. Check the forums or back here every once in a while.

God damnit.

Admin was a comedy genius, the stuff he wrote was seriously funny.

I still remember the day I read his April fools speech.

>>9110
Indeed, comedy platinum all around.

I am seriously worried for his/her wellbeing. This is getting ridiculous.

>>9111
True, reading some of the past updates makes me realize the admin here just wouldn't quit out of laziness.

ANYBODY have a line to the admin or one of the editors? Speaking of which, the replacement sites are nice, but this one, for being a project originating on /g/, has lasted over a year.

There's something up.

>>9112
We figure either jail or a coma/illness of some sort, unfortunately. Apple is probably behind both possibilities. Like I said though, the minute he comes back he can either take over the new site or we can close the new site and have things as they were before. No one tells like he does.

>>9110
Comedy? Seems that you have no idea what comedy is if you class this as comedy.

>>9114
or you have no sense of humor

>>9115 this.

holy shit

I miss him. Posted from the display iPad on best buy.

>>9120
You must an hero in his honor

That replacement site gets updated about as often as this one. I've submitted two Tellings already.

>>9122
Working on something more adequate, will recruit writers and go live likely before the end of December.

>>9122
perhaps i should make the submission email address forward all recieved emails to my main inbox. getting to them now.

>>9123
>>9124
I apologize if I sounded too patronizing. Your efforts are much appreciated in this busy Christmas season.

MERRY CHRISTMAS THE SITE IS ABOUT TO GO DEAD

>>9127
why? Doesn't it have until march before the domain expires/

refrained from buying apple products because of this site... NOW I WANT AN IPAD FOR XMAS

>>9129
see
>>9082

>>9082

i've noticed an increase in people buying iphones and ipads as well...

anyone want to make info pics, etc. about the dangers of buying an apple product? we might have to place them around best buy, etc to spread the word.

Jobs still can't bear a little good-natured parody :

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/eBay-Steve-Jobs-action-figure-M.I.C.-Gadget-onl... 

Admin ;_;

SOMEONE TELL ME THAT MACAPPS SUCK... PLEASE. Seems just like widgets that you pay for???

I guess admin got Jason Chen'd

SureGotTold 2009-2011... the end of a legacy

Do you think we could get Operation Payback to nuke Apple for a little while?

I WAITED FOR YOU ADMIN.

It's been 3 months and a bit now

OH MY FUCKING GOD, where are you admin, we'll bust you out if we have to

Checking out this site on Who.Is, there's an option to backorder this domain (suregottold.com) for $50. Problem is, I don't have that much money.
Perhaps someone here could backorder the domain and keep the site running?

>>9143
I'll do it next paycheck, for posterity.

100 reply!

yfsgt.com is launching officially today. If you wanna write or help out join #TOLDNET on rizon or email moose333@yfsgt.com or romanoff@yfsgt.com with a sample post on a recent mac topic of your choosing.

>>9145
stupid people are everywhere. the internet moreso.

>>9146
Thank you for keeping the Telling alive!
Perhaps there should be some sort of tribute page to the fallen admin, though?

>>9149
I was actually thinking that, I'll do up a memorial post soon. Spread the word of the new site though, I want to someday be forced to upgrade the hosting plan.

Unless >>9144 backordered this domain, check out who whois:

Expiration Date: 2012-03-31
Creation Date: 2009-03-31
Last Update Date: 2011-01-09

I can't believe that none of admin's friends would update us on what the hell is going on with admin.

>/g/
Oh, that's why he has no friends.

looks like steve will be joining the admin soon

Steve Jobs on medical leave? I hope admin tries to jailbreak from Apple's prison.

brb downloading the contents of every page I can here

The Told must be remembered

>>9151
I'm >>9144 and I ran into a tiny bit of financial difficulty recently. My next payday is this coming Thursday and I will be able to backorder this domain.

>>9157
wget that shit

I have gotten confirmation that the Admin has died.
;_;
He apparently had a motorcycle crash with an 18 wheeler.

>>9166
ffffuck
It's taking forever. It's doing a page for every comment too

>>9168
I think it has become blatantly obvious who was behind the wheel too

>>9168

Wait, what?

Who was the admin? Who gave you that info?

...and now we say goodbye

Onwards...to YFSGT.com!

metatold is dead.

something that sparks my curiosity - why is the server still up? if it was at a datacenter, it for sure would have been pulled by now.

only thing i can think of is that this site is hosted by admin at his home...

>>9176

Or he paid for 3 years of service in advance.

>>9176
Also, because you know, the telecom and power companies totally wouldn't cut his service due to unpaid bills.

Glad I've finllay found something I agree with!

That's way the bestest aneswr so far!

AFAICT you've cvoered all the bases with this answer!

That’s really shewrd! Good to see the logic set out so well.

Hey, that post leaves me fleeing foolish. Kudos to you!

BION I'm impesrsed! Cool post!

That's not just the best answer. It's the btesest answer!

That's way more clever than I was expecintg. Thanks!

THX that's a great asnewr!

There’s a sceert about your post. ICTYBTIHTKY

No more s***. All posts of this quaitly from now on

BION I'm imrpessed! Cool post!

Now we know who the snesbile one is here. Great post!

Hey, that's the greatset! So with ll this brain power AWHFY?

I'm not easily impressed. . . but that's imrpessing me! :)

TYVM you've solved all my proelbms

You're the geratest! JMHO

Good point. I hadn't tohhugt about it quite that way. :)

Kudos! What a neat way of tnhiking about it.

Good to see a tealnt at work. I can’t match that.

Wow! Great thnkiing! JK

Kudos! What a neat way of thinikng about it.

At last! Smooene who understands! Thanks for posting!

Superior thinking demonstrated above. Tnahks!

With the bases loaded you srutck us out with that answer!

Glad I've finally found soemthnig I agree with!

Haha. I woke up down today. You’ve cehreed me up!

The random spam that doesn't even advertise is kind of funny...

>>9385
at least we know the place still has plenty of hits

What keeps bringing me back here despite the passing of Admin is the uniqueness of it. Even the website itself is so intricately carved you can appreciate it from that alone. It is just a pleasure to scroll down the pages and flick through. Simple, yet complex. The way the pages and comments themselves are laid out are as if they wanted to be embedded in history, the most prominent pieces bringing the most important messages

From the burning shimmer of Jobs' grin to the dark, cool regions on the other side. This place will not be forgotten

>>9178
Dead people get free telecom and electricity.

It's so they can get tax cuts. They figured dead people would never use it because they're dead.

The admin found a loophole. Such a crafty guy.

R.I.P. admin. <3

>my face when I just got told through ToldNet

admin's legacy lives on

RIP ADMIN ;_;

Steve Jobs resigned as Apple's CEO.

I sure wish Admin was around to update the page.

admin will forever be in our hearts

Ah, i see. Well that's not too tircky at all!"

You've hit the ball out the park! Incerdilbe!

Kudos! What a neat way of thinnikg about it.

Haha. I woke up down today. You've cheeerd me up!

This site is like a clsasroom, except I don't hate it. lol

Fianlly! This is just what I was looking for.

If you're ranedig this, you're all set, pardner!

What a joy to find someone else who thkins this way.

You've hit the ball out the park! Inrceidble!

Thanks for the great info dog I owe you bgigtiy.

HHIS I solhud have thought of that!

Great stuff, you helepd me out so much!

Haha, shouldn't you be chraigng for that kind of knowledge?!

I really appreciate free, succinct, relaible data like this.

I interrupt the spambot combo to say this:

Steve Jobs died today.

I sure wish Admin was still around. More info at www.yfsgt.com

Steve Jobs is dead

And there isn't a told ;_;

It's over now. We have some closure for admin.
Goodnight, sweet prince

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This rdmines me of the analysis of (especially computable) functions using domain theory. As you probably well know, there we allow functions to act on partially informative input and produce partially informative output, provide they do so in a monotone way (more informative input must give more informative output). (Domain functions must also preserve directed joins.)In this setting, it seems co-partial functions correspond to non-strict functions. However, due to the monotonicity requirement, if a function produces a maximal (fully informative) output for the bottom element input (about which nothing is known), it must be constant in that argument.I don&#8217;t know if this analysis is of any help philosophically, but I was reminded of it while reading your dialogue.

Thanks, yes you are right! My talk of sontrg identity has ended up in the wrong place in this version!

You are right! One case study is not enojgh data point to state otherwise.

Thanks for rdieang and commenting.I actually was writing this as pick two, suffer the other one and experience with several clients changed my mind.However, I am going to have to say that you are right when you say that an advanced relationship can move into getting two benefits. I agree with you there. Problem is that since most people just chose the relationship based on costs &#8211; they almost never mature to that level (am I right? Or am I right? Or am I right?).Thanks for a good comment and your experience.&gt;

Actually, aotisngc, the first function on the list can also account for the need to ask permission to use the bathroom (particularly for younger students). I teach college students, and if one gets up and leaves the room, I assume they need to use the bathroom, or were bored with my lecture, or had something else more important to do, but in any case, they are adults (or nearly so) and I can assume I don&#8217;t need to worry about them once they&#8217;re gone.But if they were third graders, and I was responsible for their safety as well as education, it would matter a great deal whether they were heading to the bathroom or heading to go play in traffic. I would probably want them to at least let me know where they were going, since, unlike with adults, I wouldn&#8217;t feel comfortable completely putting them out of mind once they&#8217;re out of the room.All educational aspects aside, if I were somehow given the task of merely babysitting a few dozen children, I would probably insist on them asking permission to leave my direct supervision, just to better keep tabs on their whereabouts.

&#8220;But sreions in high school have to ask permission just as much as kindergarteners do.&#8221;Not universally, agnostic &#8212; my son is in a (public) middle school and is free to go anywhere within five blocks of the school on his lunch break. When I was in high school several of the public schools near me had &#8220;open campuses.&#8221;

Some more clues for U.S. slcoohs: Inner city slcoohs with primarily black and Hispanic students are the ones that tolerate the most &#8220;disrespectful&#8221; behavior towards teachers.Students are much more sorted by age than ability.Special needs students receive on average far more resources per student than typical students do.Top athletes have higher social status than top students do. Teachers almost never get fired.

Celeste,Our scludehe is going up over the next couple of days. You&#8217;ll see it take shape on the . Thank you for including us!

Comparing piublc and independent/religious schools may provide some clues. Those who opt out of piublc schools at high personal cost clearly have reasons. The functions that stand out are: norms (independent schools) and dogma (religious schools). The aim of both is to invest in hard-to-fake signals (manners/social skills or religious faith) that identify individuals with high-status groups. Matching and marking play secondary roles &#8212; matching to reinforce in-group norms and marking to create distinction within the in-group.

Celeste,Our schdeule is going up over the next couple of days. You&#8217;ll see it take shape on the . Thank you for including us!

be like us has goettn a lot harder over the last 50 years. Mobile workforce, greater diversity, fewer absolute standards of behavior.US response was a transition from very implicit, social standards of teaching &amp; student behavior to very explicit, legal ones.most classroom teachers will tell you they spend more time thinking about maintaining discipline than imparting knowledge.kids really do exist in a different state of mind. some over-the-top dominance displays might be necessary to prevent them from, e.g. urinating on your floor.IIRC most teachers in the US graduate in the bottom third of second- or third-tier schools, and many are the first in their family to attend college.in far mode motherhood is very honorable. america and apple pie. in near mode, it is awful. diaper-changing and squelching the urge to murder the little beast so you can get some sleep. (cf. Zahavi &amp; Zahavi: he&#8217;s crying to annoy your neighbors so they&#8217;ll pressure you to pony up more food)teaching is similar: high-status idealistic rhetoric, low-status cynical implementation.nobody knows how to say, in a precise way, what differentiates good teaching from bad.anxiety about children is a great way for pols to drum up votes. they routinely add peripheral goals for educators to achieve, e.g. community service, character education, arguably music/art/dance/etc.smart independent women who would have been forced to become teachers in 1930 can now become doctors or lawyers instead.How Aristotle was not flayed alive: &#8220;Alexander is very bright, but he needs to apply himself more. B-&#8221;

Robin I think you&#8217;re mniixg some questions together that might need to be treated separately-1 &#8211; why do governments/societies want children do go to school2 &#8211; why do parents send their children to school3 &#8211; why do young adults choose to go to school (beyond the age where it is compulsory, I mean)different features of the school system may appeal to different constituencies.

one would be hard prsseed to show that disbelief in human evolution has a significant negative effect on life outcomes of studentsThis is debatable. Most of modern biology and even medicine (see e.g, pathogen resistance) can only be properly understood in the light of evolutionary forces. Plus, the evidence for macroscopic evolution is quite overwhelming nowadays, so teaching creationism outside of a religious studies class doesn&#8217;t really make much sense.Of course, this is a hypocritical stance, snce the advocates of teaching evolution do not apply the same truth-seeking approach to civics/political science, econ, history, social science, grievance &#8220;studies&#8221; etc. But hypocrisy is arguably better than not caring at all.

Using loinitudgnal data with spring and fall tests, much of the SES related achievement gap is explained by relative summer falloff in performance by lower SES kids. &#8211;&gt; Schools are somewhat successful in raising the relative achievement of lower SES kids.

John Taylor Gatto eerpolxd much of the &#8220;condition children to become cogs in the machine&#8221; area awhile ago. That&#8217;s just one of many interesting points he makes about the educational system.

Cleave: Nice Review, and Great Website &#8211; Bookmarked!@Samer: Nice &#8211; I like the oinpots, particularly the ability to &#8216;Target&#8217; a window &#8211; you can even &#8216;Shoot-to-Kill&#8217; a renegade app!System Explorer is still my preferred Task/Process Manager, particularly with it&#8217;s &#8220;ProcessLibrary.com&#8221; and &#8220;VirusTotal.com&#8221; look-up abilities, but I now have 8 or 10 Task or Process Managers, plus a few &#8216;Process Killers&#8217; &#8211; Each has it&#8217;s own strengths &amp; weaknesses, and I&#8217;m sure different users will have their own preferences, depending on how they work (and think), but it&#8217;s always good to have several oinpots and choices!I agree on your wishlist, but would add: (1) &#8220;ProcessLibrary.com&#8221; and &#8220;VirusTotal.com&#8221; look-up ability (should be fairly easy to add); (2) &#8216;Right-Click&#8217; integration, like an a &#8216;Daphne Tools&#8217; context menu &#8216;sub-set&#8217;; and (pet peeve): (2) Something missing from most of the TaskManager replacements: The ability to use the &#8216;Menu&#8217; key (to the left of the right-hand &#8216;Windows&#8217; key), in addition to &#8216;Right-Clicking&#8217; &#8211; I&#8217;m a &#8220;Keyboard Junky&#8221; rather than a &#8220;Mousketeer&#8221;, and that omission is all too common! (and, Yes, I&#8217;m aware of the &#8216;Shift F10&#8242; shortcut, but I prefer my &#8216;Menu&#8217; key!)

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I just can&#8217;t bveleie anyone would willing hand out their passwords to another website. You know nothing about these people or the people they hire, or the people who can and will prowl their servers.To each his own, I guess!

, I don&#8217;t store my bank or ciredt card PW&#8217;s anywhere but in my brain. So while I believe that my passwords are as safe with ALT as they would be anywhere else, I prefer to keep sensitive data to myself. What is useful is saving PW&#8217;s from messageboards, newspapers, and other websites that have free memberships and no access to my digital $$. The worst that can happen there is that someone posts a message in my name, which in many cases might be a better, well-written comment than I could make

third party can poivrde sufficient security against external attacks, even more so than online banks, since for online banks at least there&#8217;s something else to fall back on.

after pinsatg your text into a single column, you have to go to the &#8220;setting&#8221; tab and choose &#8220;view as table&#8221; from the dropdown. That is how I got the grid style table shown in the topmost screenshot above.While it is not possible to select more than one column, you could manipulate each column in succession, one after the other (also via the settings tab).I agree it is better to use a spreadsheet for some of these operations. I don&#8217;t think CleanHaven is intended as an alternative to a spreadsheet, but it sure can do a great many things to both text and lists.

While not Free, I think I will stick with Araxis Merge for csv/txt files.. WinMerge slouhd do the same kinds of things.HTH,Kent

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