Opinion: Stop Apple before they kill again

Added 2010-03-13, 04:47 PM | 74 Replies

It should go without saying that I'm a PC person. I'd never owned anything from Apple in my life, and with good reason. But shortly after this website came online last year, I decided to acquire and start using Apple products. Why? Because I didn't think I could be an effective critic by taking cheap shots from the sidelines. It was a costly decision to make for a non-profit website with then-zero visitors that may not have grown beyond an April Fools' joke.

Fast-forward 11.5 months. The Apple computer is currently exhibiting all sorts of fun problems unheard of on the average PC. At times, the MagSafe power adapter decides not to connect. The keyboard and trackpad only work when they feel like it after being woken from suspend. The wireless adapter disconnects or disappears at random. Sometimes the system turns on and hangs at a grey screen without the Apple logo. As far as the iPod, it was replaced three times after breaking under light to normal use. The dock cable also frayed and the replacement cable just stopped connecting a few days ago.

It's not like I didn't already know this going in, but take it from someone unlucky enough to have used them: Apple computers and devices are disposable trash.

Fortunately, there are viable alternatives for both of these soon-to-be ex-products over in the PC ecosystem. If you're an Apple customer, though, you might not know that. And that's what this website is all about: Tearing down the reality distortion field. Demonstrating that Apple isn't as perfect as it claims to be. But most importantly, acting not so much as a "news" site, but as a historical chronicle for all the negative things about Apple that get forgotten whenever they announce a new iProduct. Why is this important?

Because Apple is a terrible company.

Chinese iPhone engineer Sun Danyong died due to Apple's overbearing culture of secrecy. A reporter for Reuters was assaulted at the hands of an Apple supplier. Apple was recently forced to admit that child laborers were employed to build their products. And a worker died after 49 others were diagnosed with severe toxic poisoning due to a solvent used in the manufacture of iPhones.

These events quickly fell out of the media spotlight after Apple trotted out its standard manufactured PR line about social responsibility and codes of conduct. The media bought it every time. After the deaths, after the assault, after the child labor revelation, after the poisoning. But after finding that even the media is living in fear of Apple, should we be surprised?

Apple is, after all, the company that fought repeatedly in court to hide the facts behind their exploding iPod batteries. Facts that could have informed the parents of the child severely injured when his iPod touch exploded and caught fire in his pocket.

This is a shameful and disgusting record for any company, and it's one that deserves continued exposure. Who will Apple kill next? And why are they allowed to get away with it?

Late last year, we found out completely by accident that Apple was monitoring this site. Thanks to some modifications put in place to combat comment spam, junk submissions, and general misuse by pro-Apple trolls, our abuse system presented several IP addresses in Apple's IP range.

Correlating our abuse report for Apple's IPs in tandem with date/time ranges of what we'll call "significant Steve Jobs-related events" over the past year, we came to the conclusion that one of the Apple IPs visiting the site is either Jobs himself or one of his close entourage. He is of course as welcome here as anyone else, and I only mention this since it makes me more confident that this message will reach its intended target:

Mr. Jobs, there's a time for secrecy. If people are getting assaulted, exploited, poisoned, and killed, that is not the time. I knew full-well that I'd regret purchasing your products, but I didn't know I'd be this sorry. Human life will never be as disposable as your shoddy merchandise.

You run Apple. The buck stops with you. Not with your contractors, not with your suppliers, not with anybody else. It's your paranoid culture of secrecy. It's your exploited child laborers. It's your poisoned and dying factory workers. It's your dead engineer.

I can only hope that, wherever you end up when your time is through, your reality distortion field won't save you from what you deserve. And I sincerely hope that Sun Danyong, the engineer that was driven to his death in fear of you, is there to see it happen.

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> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)17:13 No.6656 
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Elegantly told.
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)17:59 No.6657 
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Post of the year. Hands down.
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)18:20 No.6658 
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The Telling of the century
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)18:28 No.6659 
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apple is dum
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)19:05 No.6660 
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It is tough to express through words how much told you just served up.
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)19:05 No.6661 
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10/10
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)19:15 No.6662 
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Fag Status

[X] FUCKING TOLD!
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)19:59 No.6663 
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Taking it to the next level.
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)20:04 No.6664 
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FUCKING OWNED
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)20:04 No.6665 
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>>6663
>>6662
>>6661
>>6660
>>6659
>>6658
>>6657
>>6656
+OP

Fag Status:
[X] SAME
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)20:06 No.6666 
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>implying apple despite it's faults isn't one of the leading competitors in the business

You fags can shout TOLD TOLD all you want, that doesn't change the fact apple exist, and is to this date still very profitable and functional as a company.
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)20:09 No.6667 
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10^told /10
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)20:10 No.6668 
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>>6666
2/10

You got an extra point for the nice get.
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)20:11 No.6669 
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>>6666
That's because capitalism isn't picky enough
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)20:11 No.6670 
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>>6666
>implying they're not a leading competitor only because there is a surplus of morons like you sucking jobs' icock
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)20:12 No.6671 
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I hate Apple to no end, but I just can't deny that the iPod touch is the best fucking PMP currently out. So smooth and sexy and its ease of use beats all others. Other than that though, everything else is pure shit.
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)20:12 No.6672 
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So you got a defective unit, which Apple can and would have replaced same day (same VISIT to an Apple store) for FREE and you think that is exemplary of their entire product line? Laptops over 1000 dollars simply don't fail that often, regardless of brand. Macs are no exception. When your 300 Acer breaks you can blame poor build quality and workmanship and you'd probably be right. Cheap--as in quality--computers all have similar problems; Apple doesn't sell cheap computers.

It's also a little hard for me to take you seriously when you just list off all the reported failures of Macs and claim they all manifest in a single unit. The magsafe cord fraying occurred on a tiny fraction of units, and they have been since redesigned AND Apple will replace your broken one with the new design FOR FREE. Every other problem you have is either immediately fixable by someone at an Apple store, and if it wasn't they give you a new unit to replace it FOR FREE.

That is when you even get a defective unit, which hasn't happened for me in the 15 years I've been using Apple products. They break occasionally though, and I know they do, it's a complex machine and things can and will go wrong somewhere. How the company handles things when they do is what makes Apple a better company than Dell, Acer, Asus, et al.
> TO Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)20:13 No.6673 
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LD
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)20:16 No.6674 
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>>6672
>Apple doesn't sell cheap
correct, they buy cheap (lol child labour) and sell high.
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)20:19 No.6675 
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>>6672
I had to use Apple products in high school. Half of them needed to be serviced consistently.
> I know this all along. Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)20:25 No.6676 
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And I even told my XBL friend that even Mac will get the same things as WINDOWS. And that the fact.
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)20:37 No.6677 
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>>6671

>I have never used nor heard of a Cowon S9

Superior audio quality, superior battery life, Superior screen screen technology, and same design aspects. If you care about your Media, get an S9. If you care about wasting your time with Apps, get an iPod Touch.

>>6666
eMachines is a terrible company that makes terrible products for terrible people. They're still around and make money, despite having nothing positive going for them, except possibly their bargain basement prices. Welcome to capitalism. Where even the weak survive because of the stupid.
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)20:38 No.6678 
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Watch out, Apple is going to post snipers near your house.
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)21:01 No.6679 
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Holy fucking shit

5.9 PETABALMERS OF TOLD, THIS IS THE BIG ONE FOLKS
> Pika-Index !Yo/g/o4wiA 03/13/10(Sat)21:05 No.6680 
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So told.
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)21:09 No.6681 
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>>6672
Hard for me to take you seriously when you have that fucking reality distortion field up. Face it faggot; Apple is an average company that doesn't surpass anyone. Their computers were couldn't even begin compete with XP until Leopard, and Snow Leopard is just 64-bit mode. I can't wait to see fucktards like you drop $100 for OS 10.7 just so you can play catch-up with Windows 7's awesome features like Snap and Libraries.

The only reason Apple's computers are expensive are due to markups; the parts are just as crappy, if not crappier, as Dell or Gateway. The fucking iMac fiasco should have fucking told your stupid ass that clearly. There is no premium for any of their shit; it's all just smoke and mirrors to draw in the unknowing and easily fooled, as well as the elitist jackoffs that still have mommy and daddy pay for everything.

To make this told even sweeter, I can get an extended accidental warranty from almost any major PC manufacturer for under $300, lasting for about 3-4 years. I took advantage of it from HP a while back when I spilled my coffee on my laptop. It was like 2 months before it's time was up, so I called them up. I sent it in, and since they didn't have that particular model anymore, I got a brand fucking new one. Everything on this thing was better than what I had; Core 2 Duo, 4 GB RAM, 64-bit Vista SP1 (that actually worked), 320 GB HDD, even screen resolution. So keep chugging that kool-aid, dickhead. You've obviously never even used a PC.
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)21:10 No.6682 
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wow, SO MUCH FUCKING TOLD
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)21:12 No.6683 
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>>6672
I fucking love how you had to add "they are complex machines [so they break]". Somehow trying to defend apple as hard as you fucking can whilst facing the fact that they didn't do something worthy of their God-like position in your life
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)22:08 No.6685 
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>>6672
>Laptops over 1000 dollars simply don't fail that often, regardless of brand. Macs are no exception.

but mac laptops aren't over $1000. apple just jacks up the price of a $400 laptop.
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)22:22 No.6686 
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I have that problem too, when the I connect the Magsafe plug when the battery is it 93-99%, and it refuses to charge.

Seven visits to the Genius Bar to get an audio problem fixed. From the fucking beginning, I told the 'Genius' that I had heard of others having the same problem as me, and they got it fixed by replacing the logic board. 'Noo... it must be conflicting apps. Or maybe it's because of your cellphone interfering with it. Are you using any microwaves next to it?'

The reason I purchased it was for Adobe CS4, and it runs like shit on OS X compared to Windows XP/7 and even fucking Vista. Fags blame the problem on Adobe, but if the one set of programs that the Macbook is specifically made for run like shit on it, what the fuck is it good for?

Fucking worst purchase of my life. Sold it a few weeks ago to some schmuck for $200 less than I bought it and bought a kick-ass Asus.
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)22:50 No.6687 
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TOLD. FUCKING TOLD.
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)22:51 No.6688 
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A quality Telling, indeed.

Wow, you really took one for the team and bought a mac? That's dedication to a cause if I ever saw it. The only exposure of myself and my friends to iProducts has been the shuffle, which admittedly is cheap by apple standards. Nonetheless it is still an overpriced piece of shit, since every one of them broke within 6 months and there were constant problems syncing before then.
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)22:52 No.6689 
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>>6672
>butthurt
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)23:06 No.6690 
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more like site owner is so butthurt
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)23:08 No.6691 
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>>6690
I love how you Macfags go out of your way to prove us right. Enjoy buying a new overpriced baby toy every 2 months and acting like a cunt every chance you get.
> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)23:12 No.6692 
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funny how macs always break right before the next model comes out
> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)00:39 No.6693 
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Leave Apple alone. PC does all this shit too but you never hear about it.
> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)00:47 No.6694 
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>>6693
>Leave apple alone
>baww my ass is sore
> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)00:54 No.6695 
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>>6690

You might want to put on some neosporin for that burn before heading out to go see The Butthurt Locker, it looks pretty bad, brah.
> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)01:03 No.6696 
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>>6693
"PC" isn't a single group or company like your mac ads may suggest, it is infact the rest of the world, and for the same price it provides 2-3x the performance at 1/2 or less the power consumption.

Apple's PMP's have some of the worst audio quality around (people who haven tried better won't know better, like someone who prefers CRT's and hasn't seen a LCD), the iMac's have the specs of a laptop for the price of a server, ipad has a fraction of the power and half the battery life of every other tablet out there, which are all based on tegra 2.

Yet they're red hot because of marketing, so merely owning an Apple product is basically making the statement that you're gullible and willing to buy 2005 technology for 2011 prices because it's branded as magical.
> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)01:30 No.6697 
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The told in this post made me cream my pants. Thank you anonymous.
> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)01:40 No.6698 
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>>6665
>implying Sure Got Told isn't all just one guy posting... including you.
> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)03:17 No.6699 
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>>6696
>1/2 or less the power consumption

actually macs have some of the best power consumption stats on record. and the ipad is 20x more power efficient than a wasteful x86 netbook.
> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)03:25 No.6700 
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>>6699
Not compared to the Tegra 2. Notion Ink Adam tablet kicks the shit out of the iPad. Especially when you turn off the backlight on the transflective screen and use it as an e-ink screen to get 200+ hours of battery life.

Fuck off.
> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)03:39 No.6701 
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>>6700
can it access itunes or the app store? no? didn't think so.
> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)04:55 No.6702 
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>>6701
So...?
That's like saying a car is junk because it doesn't stall or randomly burst into flames.
iTunes sucks dick, and the app store is a fucking joke.
> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)05:26 No.6703 
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BROFIST
> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)08:34 No.6704 
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>>6701
iTunes is a fucking joke; I just want to listen to music, not a bloated media suite. A full install of Winamp is half as intrusive, but at least they give you the option of a light install that plays music only. And who needs the App Store? Typical clueless Macfag, doesn't know shit about technology or anything not made by Apple. Get over your fucking buying remorse or shut the fuck up.
> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)11:45 No.6705 
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>>6704

Brofist. In 2007 I wanted something like an iPod nano, so I searched around and for the same price I found a Cowon iAudio7, which comes with twice the memory (solid state!), twice the battery life, the ability to play ogg, recharges off the USB, and drag & drop interface. No iTunes, no DRM, no bullshit. Just mount it like a USB disk and copy your files over.

But I'm glad stupid macfags keep buying Apple's shitty overpriced products. It just brings down the price of alternative hardware, so thanks faggots.
> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)12:48 No.6706 
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>>6701
No one gives a shit about accessing iTunes. Who buys music these days you enormous faggot? Even my 50 year old mother doesn't buy music. You pathetic fucking macfaggot.
> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)12:50 No.6707 
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>>6699
A motorized scooter is also more fuel efficient than a m1a1 abrams.

Compare the ipad to other tablets instead of a different class of computer and it's shit.

http://www.notionink.in/adamtechspecs.php
> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)13:03 No.6708 
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>>6705
I was the same way; I only had Creative and Cowon products because of the extra video capabilities. I did spring for an 80GB iPod Classic when they first came out, but only because it was the largest player for $250 and Zune was still shit. I only wanted something to hold my massive amount of music, anyways. It's battery lasts 4-7 hours when it's supposed to go for over 30, and sure enough Apple never found anything wrong with it every time I sent it in complaining about it. I give Apple the benefit of the doubt and look what fucking happens.
> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)14:00 No.6709 
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>>6705
Unfortunately Apple's been training their users to obey their DRM infested restrictive ways to the point where they just don't know better, the idea of being able to simply put their music onto their player without importing or syncing or playlists or converting would scare and confuse them.

>>6701
God forbid you'd have to adjust to the world outside Apple's little anti-competitive software dictatorship, the freedom of being able to do what you want rather than what Apple wants might drive you mad.
> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:28 No.6710 
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MACFAG STATUS: Told.
> /g/ - United Tech Support Service !TrIpCoDekE 03/14/10(Sun)19:21 No.6711 
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That's 771 words of unparalleled told
> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)20:37 No.6712 
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>>6677

i actually use an e-machine computer (of course it's been upgraded quite a bit) because i needed a cheap desktop quick. i've had it 2 years

my room mate has had 5 different mac books in that time..

>>6672
yes he had thing replaced at the apple store quite easily but it astounds me how aware mac users tend to be about the return and replacement policies of a store selling a product they claim is great
> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)23:10 No.6713 
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SureGotTold's magnum opus
> Printed and Distubuted Chilly Canadian 03/15/10(Mon)06:22 No.6714 
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anyone know of any good/populated online submission printers?
this needs to be fucking everywhere (possibly with expanded links though.
im goign to personally print out about 80 sheets of this and visit the local macstore in market mall and hand them out, who is with me?
> Anonymous 03/15/10(Mon)08:15 No.6715 
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>6672

You have a fairly low IQ.... Macs have the same build quality as any other OEM... Get a grip and get something right for once you pro-apple troll... Why do you think they make so much profit for over-priced hardware?

Never have I heard a lamer excuse for ripping consumers off...
> Anonymous 03/15/10(Mon)10:18 No.6716 
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>>6714

approval
> eMeek 03/15/10(Mon)16:42 No.6717 
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Why y'all scremin' told. This title says opinion.
> Anonymous 03/15/10(Mon)18:31 No.6719 
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>>6717
Oh great, this faggot. Prepare yourself for massive butthurt, you retarded redneck Macfag.
> Anonymous 03/15/10(Mon)23:13 No.6721 
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>>6717
Anyone who does not agree with this opinion is wrong.
> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)11:04 No.6728 
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Told: Srs business
> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)23:26 No.6729 
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those reports of poisoning and child labor are crap, resp. it's stupid to blame it on apple, conditions in China factories are generally bad + the child labour were 15 year olds, not 8

the engineer stuff was a lot tougher and I think in that case responsibility is directly on Apple
> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)23:30 No.6730 
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...aaaand this is his face
http://www.gsmdome.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/sun_danyong.jpg
> Anonymous 03/16/10(Tue)23:33 No.6731 
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>>6730
:/

In an interview with The New York Times, Sun’s brother, Sun Danxiong, 28, said Foxconn paid his family $US44,000 compensation and gave Sun’s girlfriend a free Apple laptop computer.
> Anonymous 03/17/10(Wed)05:28 No.6732 
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leave apple alone. far worse things happen in china.
> Anonymous 03/17/10(Wed)05:36 No.6733 
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>>6732
>implying Apple doesn't cause those things in China either.

Nice try.
> Anonymous 03/17/10(Wed)11:23 No.6734 
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>>6732
>leave apple alone
Spoken like a true macfaggot.
> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)13:09 No.6737 
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>>6731
>gave Sun’s girlfriend a free Apple laptop computer.
Talk about rubbing it in!
> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)15:08 No.6738 
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>>6732
So just because one thing happens that could be worse than the other thing, we should ignore the other thing? Is that how you work? "Damn my Cat is dying, oh no I got a paper cut! No time to save your life kitty, I gotta get a Band-Aid!"
> Anonymous 03/18/10(Thu)22:08 No.6739 
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Enough condensed told to blow your brains from your skull. Fantastic.
> Anonymous 03/24/10(Wed)17:11 No.6793 
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>>6700
non to mention they are comparing apple computers with 5 year old tech angst computers made now that are twice as powerful there for requiring the power consumption